"Spiritual Gifts" In Paul and Their Modern Meaning; University-based Philosophical Truth, Anyone? Healings, For Another?

Kenneth Chan Mark Huston sorry I got lost. I was already lost in your citations of Paul. In any event, you asked a lot of questions and they all predicated on some assumptions that I am seeking clarification. Are you asking what Paul meant by Love. Well, … how many PhDs do I have to get in order to attempt a guess. Are you asking what “prophecy” is in Paul’s times? Well, more PhDs. “Spiritual gifts?” I am still seeking a clarification of what you meant. Let me look up your scriptural references first. Reply Share 2h Mark HustonAuthor Group expert Kenneth Chan As above: 'Have you had experienced any of these SGs on this list? 'How' does how work for: 'Be transformed by the renewing of ones mind...' How does one go about doing that? 'Putting to death the flesh (survival-based ego-self) How does one go about doing that? To 'Let this consciousness be in you...' be 'in Christ' consciousness, a 'new creation in Christ' consciousness How does one go about doing that? 'Pursue love...' as in developing more of it that 'God is' How does one go about doing that? '...earnestly desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy.' OK - 'earnest desire' supports all matters achieve, but how may one go about accomplishing this regarding SGs generally and prophesy in particular? How does one go about doing that? While these for some may be about 'reinventing the wheel' any thoughts about the 'Hows' of these?' Reply Share 2h Mark Rego Monteiro Kenneth Chan Your delegating the task of responding about something like Paul´s view of Love to "PhD´s" can be viewed from a lighter angle, but you seem to be demonstrating the problem of overintellectualization and even entering the area of the fallacy of appeals to authority. In using my modest degrees in Bio Anthro and later International Relations, I have learned to value my own good taste in combining education and personal experience and effort over formalism by specialists. Philosophical truth is the central objective of any conventional academic scholarship, in fact, and a nice and adequate simple gauge of balancing empirical and conceptual reality. And philosophical truth, my puny masters degree powered by a Harvard undergraduate degree in the biological evolution of human symbolic behavior has allowed me to discern, is based on its origins in Christian spiritual practice that have been amply limited, or even misdirected, by ideological forms of materialism. I won´t even worry about being specialized, and just say casually, didn´t Paul at least say, "Love is patient, etc."? He also asserted the need to "pray constantly" and "test all things, and hold on to what is good." These are central high integrity assertions that dispel the most dismissive stereotypes, or possibly modest misguided notions of Paul the Apostle. The Apostle of Jesus Christ, and among the first powerful steps in Jesus´ legacy that is the central foundational feature usually now neglected in identifying modern University-based PhD´s. Thomas Aquinas´ Christianization and empirical treatment of Aristotle linked Jesus´ heritage revamped in his legacy as the lawful and loving Creator God who made a loving, finite creation. As for prophecies and spiritual gifts, please see my comment to MH. Philosophical truth in Jesus´ legacy is the driving force in globalized University-based, UN human rights culture. It needs to be re-spiritualized to address the misdirected influences of ideological materialism. We need to go beyond overvaluing and misconstruing the role of "science," and understand the liberal arts and sciences as more than just a description of University curriculum. Instead, we need to "upgrade" the description and operationalize it as Multidisciplinary Philosophy with empiricism. That, along with spiritual-religious phenomena and knowledge. It´s a good idea, I suggest, to start with situating "science" and reclaiming it as scientific natural philosophy, understanding that it is in fact a symbolic system, and exists in a spectrum of human University-based philosophical scholarship with empiricism. Comparative Religious Studies, and its adequate valuing of psychosocial studies disciplines in addition to scientific resources, seems a good philosophical disciplinary goal for reorienting emphasis in modern empirical knowledge. For spiritual gifts related to spiritual phenomena, then, we might then focus our faculties on all symbolic representations capable of identifying something as basic as the scientific data labeling meditative behavior, and then switching awareness to the meaning of medically attested, medically and classically scientifically impossible healings with spiritual-religious testimony. At root, however, is understanding the diverse formulations of cause and effect, choice and consequence in empirical philosophical scholarship and data.