The Puddle In the Whole Designed Just for It

Josh Martin I’ve chewed on this concept a lot since atheists have challenged me with it. I think it’s a considerable point but we’ve found a way to escape that puddle to look around for other puddles and still haven’t found anything capable of life like earth. Thus far we are completely unique despite discoveries far beyond our puddle. Reply 1h Jvan Lozada Josh Martin Just a little bit of research and you will find how essential are these little muddy puddles in human development a lot of people just look at them as useless but they are not just essential for your kids to play, it’s shaped their lives too, boost immune system and etc… it’s just a dumb ignorant analogy Reply 1hEdited Josh Martin Jvan Lozada I think the analogy merit’s consideration but usually when it’s used against me in regards to creation the point tends to be that of course the earth would have life because it’s suited to maintain life. But thus far (thus far the important wording) we’ve not discovered another planet like ours. There’s been the possibility of microbes, but nothing expansive and intricate like earth. People find it silly for me to say a creator specifically crafted our world when there’s so much beyond our planet. Yet we’ve not discovered intelligent life on anything else. Reply 32mEdited Josh Martin Mark Rego Monteiro Josh Martin Interesting reflections. I see it from a slightly different angle, since I´ve seen the need to address the rather willful amnesia and misguided technophile tunnelvision of "science," and ideological scientific materialism. As the analogy itself proceeds by personifying a puddle, "personification" itself isn´t merely a ´primitive behavior. It´s primarily relational instead of object-cognitive. I then take the scholarly approach of deconstructing this kind of conversation to its actual philosophical nature. Personifying the puddle here is a science advocate trying to ridicule personfication by portraying it as actually nothing more than physicality, ignoring even the very meaning of a metaphor or analogy as psychological and mental. Because, "science" is a technophile popularized term for scientific natural philosophy, the actual human activity, ie human psycho-social, cultural and mental activity. Minds at work, reflecting our meta-animal symbol using capacity that is the interface in our spiritual-religious experiences, phenomena, and knowledge. As you note our actual uniqueness, scientific materialists entrance people with multiverse as an imaginative and imaginary rationalist substitute for spiritual-religious practice and knowledge. By acknowledging our human minds at work, we can appreciate that astrophysical knowledge is a human activity, and that it requires reflecting on our condition here, as in FD Roosevelt´s Social Gospel vision and legacy of the UN proposed and negotiated with the world. Gandhi, at the same time, presented a powerful image of personal spiritual, theist living. Einstein did as well, admiring Gandhi lavishly, acknowledging Jesus´ quality in the Bible NT, and himself representing a precious personality despite his own talk of Spinoza´s "impersonal God." Rationalistically speaking as he was. Thus, from the angle of human mind and personality, we can identify the standard of philosophy in the works of "science" itself and the anchor in psychosocial reality. The issue raised by more than one philosopher, from Bishop Berkeley and made pointedly by James Fred Ferrier notes that the human mind relates to mental phenomena, and that a metaphysical First Cause-Mind is a strong argument.