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Monday, May 10, 2021
Jesus Is Legend, Simon bar Kokhba Has Coins!
Yeah, you love your coins. And can´t quite get "legend, myth, and propaganda" in proper perspective. You rail against "ignorance and superstition," but your hatred and raging condemns you to coins of a three year Republic cut down brutally. "Jesus didn´t leave any coins!" Just some letters by Paul, Peter, and "James," and Josephus´ reference to James, and indirect corroborationsin archeology, and the rest psychosocial inferences and the basic explosive spread of a religion and its components. Ah, but your raging against the majority of scholars dating the NT texts is very sad. The guy just salivating against "legend, myth, and propaganda" and "ignorance and superstititon" can´t accept majority scholarship about the accepted dates of the NT texts. I just repeated that because it frames the intensity of your denialism and your zealotry. That is likely to mean that you are fixated on fundamentalism, and acting out of some related trauma.
So, in your deluded mindset, I´m not really writing to you and your traumatized shuffle. I´m enjoying exploring the subject, however.
Whether “any religionist actually offers any contradiction to
Ehrman” is a statement that you make in terms of your own lack of
credibility. As for Ehrman´s literalist background, that clearly
correlates with his narrowminded and clumsy confusion of knowledge
domains, and thinking ability with an appropriate range of
philosophical accuracy and empirical methodology. Your own
obtuseness to fallacy, indulgence in unjustified and frenzied hateful
bias and ad hom, and consequent crass preference for and dependence
on non-Christian Rabbinic literature for legitimacy defines you at
the present time. And só in the Freedom of Speech and Religion of
modern University-based society in Jesus´ legacy, nothing is
stopping you from persisting in that.
Thus, you reason around the premise that “Jesus was a famous
celebrity”, which is a possible modern and follower´s potential
hope. You say Jesus was “NOT an anonymous nobody with no sense of
the defining of contexts. You seem unable to address the alternative
points of view involved in an event of that time. In modern times
alone, Milton Erickson MD was a revolutionary psychotherapist who
influenced work that has made Anthony Robbins só effective and well
known as a life coach. Yet, Milton Erickson MD is clearly not a
“family name,” as they say. Another example is James Warbasse,
the first president of the US NCBA for co-op biz. He wrote some
books as a co-op biz advocate, and may have been in circles familiar
with FD Roosevelt, elected president around 1932. I know of Warbasse
because of my interest and research. Few people in the general
public will know of him, or Erickson, no matter how much applause
they received in conferences and talks they gave. And that is in
modern times. Even King Herod of the Jews is primarily known through
Josephus. JR Rubenstein addresses an alternative Rabbinic verion of
Herod´s life, and identifies Persian influences that correlate with
it. Josephus´ at least has no compromise of its integrity in that
way.
Pontius Pilate, for example, is only described as
having contact as the scheming of the religious leaders proceeded at
a specific point. The NT texts, however, are the source until the
first generation after the Apostles, termed the Apostolic Fathers.
The texts do not claim that Jesus met Pontius Pilate and whoever the
Jewish King-type was. Jesus was famous among some group of common
people and whatever odd higher ups were interested. I believe a
member of the Jewish royal circle was involved.
Meanwhile, Josephus is a source for talk about King Herod, and
Herod´s father Antipater (Antipater I the Idumaean), who is
described as having good connections with Julius Caesar and getting
appointed as leader of Judea. Josephus follows Herod´s rise to
power with reference to his contact with governor Sextus Caesar.
Events unfolded, só that Herod fled to Rome, where two sources give
differing years for the Senate declaring that Herod was King of the
Jews, ca 39 BC/E.
In fact, Josephus, at ca 94 AD/CE, refers to Jesus, the Christ whose brother was James.
He reports that he was stoned to death by order of the High Priest. The information of context has to be correlated with other related information to establish the year of ca 64 of the cited event. That seems outside your demonstrated capacity to reason, however. Too bad for you.
You then resort to referring to evidence of other historical
characters as “diversion” based on your ideological
preconceptions without demonstrating competence in empirical
historiography. If an otherwise unknown historical figure of high
status like Pontius Pilate is mentioned in the text, that text has
specific corroboration. Ascribing “invalid” to the rest of the
text is not justified, but ideological distortion and bias. Your
including ad homs clarifies your own lack of control, emotional
awareness, and the presence of psychological issues. Not the
invalidity of correlated text material. You then resort to
accusations of “lies” about the dating of NT texts. With no
justification, except your personal bias.
Amidst your flurry of ideological antagonism, you finally
articulate a date range from 8 AD/CE to 140 AD/CE, falling back on
Simon bar Kokhba. You refer to “Rabbinical circles”, citing your
own apparent preference for information. Rabbi MJ Cook says
information around Jesus´ time is inconclusive, but that later views
hardly reconcile Jesus´ critiques and message with Jewish religious
approval: “Mindful
that some Jews had indeed been lured into Christian ranks, the rabbis
denounced Jesus himself for having attempted to "entice and lead
Israel astray," i.e., into apostasy and idolatry.”
Otherwise,
in addition to the SOTER square material from Pompey in the 70s AD,
there is the Jericho Cave, where Y Peleg has found carvings of early
crosses with Roman army symbols, dating possibly to ca 70 AD/CE. Y
Tepper found a Roman army temple dedicated to “the God Jesus
Christ, probably pre-200 AD. The Pompey reference is bolstered by a
Cherem curse at the Procolo bakery/home, cross, and covering up of
Roman sexual images. More interesting and more basic are the
Apostolic fathers. Clement of Rome´s first Epistle is dated between
70 and 140 AD. The Didache is considered pre-100 AD. The Epistle of
Barnabas from 70 to 132 AD.
Simon
bar Kochba´s achievement of a 3 year Jewish state is noteworthy in
its span from 132 to 135 AD. It´s cost of a “scorched earth
policy, or Cassius Dio´s tally of close to 600,000 lives is, as
well. The Nahal Hever Cave of Letters Yet, what is noteworthy is
your materialist criteria, and bias. What´s noteworthy is your
inability to understand the variable nature of empirical historical
evidence, as ironic as the value of Apostle Paul´s, Peter´s, and
the epistle of James (65-85 AD) and the need to understand logical
inferences. You demonstrate a dependence on Rabbinical sources, and
an aversion to University-based scholarship and its insights só
hostile it verges on a zealous frenzy. The logic there is raging and
hateful emotions, not philosophical lucidity of empirical truth.
“Religionism and shamanism was invented and flourished in a
world filled with ignorance and superstition. Education and peaceful
free secular democracy is rapidly eliminating such things from the
developed world and beyond.”
Shamanism is a behavior that potentially, and in many cases
skillfully, demonstrates a form of intelligence and insight in
psychosocial and transpersonal relations. Psychology has developed a
key form of modern philosophical understanding shaman abilities, and
in multidisciplinary study like anthropology, medical anthropology,
creative arts, and comparative religious studies, even further. It
is thus that Sigmund Freud´s observations of pain without organic
causes in fact had psychological causes and involved
neuropsychological conversion. He engaged in psychotherapeutic
approaches that revealed talk therapy techniques, abreaction
(emotional connection), and catharsis. That alone makes for an
interesting comparative study with spiritual traditions like
Christian monasticism and Buddhism. Jungian psychology became
transpersonal, referring to a Higher Self, and more.
“Ignorance and superstition” are terms normally associated
with judgments based on scientific materialism. Evaluating their use
by materialists and rationalists has resulted in various scholarly
insights that amply clarify and debunk their use based on knowledge
in the social sciences and humanities. An R Awaad MD of Stanford
advises, “Psychiatrists...should
be willing to work with leaders/members of faith communities,
chaplains and pastoral workers...” and used data
like “•9 out of
10 of American adults say thatthey prayand 58% pray
daily•Approximately two-‐thirds are members of churches
orsynagogues” (Pew, 2012) Also, “The reality is that the
statistical majority of our patients and the world consider
spirituality very important when it comes to mental health,”
session chair Harvard Med School´s David H. Rosmarin, Ph.D.,
A.B.P.P., told Psychiatric
News.
Religion will demonstrate mixtures depending on
whether institutions or scholarly disciplines are being referred to.
As for “education and peaceful free democracy”, those are
non-scientific subjects, and as various studies show, are promoting
primarily individual spiritual seeking, not hateful, rationalist
anti-religious ideologues.
One relevant field is the Psychology of Religion, and observations
include, “In one survey study of college students undergoing
religious/spiritual struggles, when asked to indicate whether they
had grown and/or declined through their struggles, almost half
reported that they had grown and not declined and only 3% felt that
they had declined and not grown (Desai and Pargament, 2015). “
Yet, as empirical scholars, they also observe studies that show that
“not growing from religious/spiritual struggles” can be a study
result. Thus, they can frame studies that define and begin to
examine those variables, “Taken as a whole, these findings suggest
that growth following religious/spiritual struggles is not
inevitable. Rather, whether religious/spiritual struggles lead to
growth or decline may depend on moderating variables. A few studies
have begun to identify some of the factors that may foster growth and
reduce distress among those who experience religious/spiritual
struggles. These include an accepting attitude toward
religious/spiritual struggles (Dworsky, Pargament, Wong, and Exline,
2016), reframing religious/spiritual struggles as an opportunity for
positive change (Saritoprak and Exline, in press), finding a sense of
meaning through religious/spiritual struggles (Wilt et al., 2016),
drawing on religious/spiritual coping resources (Wilt et al., 2019),
and having a sense of ultimate hope (Abu Raiya et al., 2016). “
It is literacy in those kind of knowledge domains that reflects
insight into the phenomena domains they study, “Hundreds of studies
have shown significant links between health and various facets of
religion/spirituality—from prayer and meditation to participation
in rituals and religious services (e.g., Koenig, King, and Carlson,
2012). “ Thus, it is recommended for clinicians to evaluate people
whether they, “Accept the reality of spiritual and transpersonal
experiences.” Clearly, people like yourself don´t, and thus live
with the consequences.
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